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Old December 3rd, 2005
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442 Problem

Alright guys, I just bought a 1969 Olds 442 W-30 today and I got it just about home and it died on me, so we had to push it the last hundred feet. We thought that maybe it was the battery, so we bought a new one, but the car still didn't want to turn over. After going out to dinner, we came back and the car started, but now its squealing whenever it turns on and runs. It keeps dying on me after a couple of seconds running. I think it might be the fan belt. Do you guys have any idea of what that is?
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How long did it sit? Does the belt look ok ? Many of the auto parts stores have charging system testers call ahead to be sure they have one. This will save you money and get to the problem fast. If it is the belt you are lucky. But get it checked out I have stupidly spent hundreds on replacing my charging system with new parts that were not needed.
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Before I got it, the guy drove it just about every weekend. It sat in the garage yesterday only for an hour or so before we tried to turn it on again since it died the first time on the way home. Thanks for the advice, I need to go to the autoparts store anyways, so I'll ask them when I go up there. Thanks again.
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Old December 5th, 2005
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This is opposite of TMI

Hello,
First of all congratulations on purchasing one fine automobile!

We need more info though:
You state that "didn't want to turn over". Do you mean that the engine does not turn over rapidly when you turn the key to start, or do you mean that it rolls over well but does not start?

If it is squeeling like a belt, could it be the alternator has nearly froze or froze up? That would explain a dead battery and a squeeling belt.

Did you try to charge your old battery?

Let us know!
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Old December 5th, 2005
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Yeah, I got an incredible deal on the car, $1900. You couldn't ask for a better deal on such a rare car.
Well we put on a new alternator belt and a new 930 volt battery. She now turns over and idols, but she doesn't last long at all before it dies. When you say that the alternator might have nearly frozen or froze up, what do you mean? The battery was old and we tried to charge it before we bought a newer, more powerful one. We are going to try to take off the smaller fan belt and see if it needs to be replaced.
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It sounds like a bad alternator and the car is running off the battery till it is dead. Once the car is started it is suppose to run off the alternator. Dollars to donuts old battery was ok just drained and alternator is worn out.
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Awesome Deal!

$1900 !?!?!?!

That is a smokin' deal! I'll give you $2500 right now! LOL

If the bearings (or something else) in your alternator are bad the engine could be having to force it to spin. That could be the squealing itself, or it could be providing enough resistance to make the belt squeal. Like Jackie said if the alternator is bad that would drain the battery too. You could just take the belt off and spin it by hand and see if it squeaks or acts strange. It should spin very easily and smoothly.

We have Auto Zone parts stores here in MI and they will test alternators for free. You have to remove it from the car though.

Remember you get what you pay for when buying electrical components like alternators. I would buy a good one like an AC Delco. Not cheap but worth it.
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I replaced the spark plugs and the pvc valve and pipe. She now idles fine and the squeeling has died down a lot except for when I really rev up the engine. Do you think it might be internal? I'm going to clean and change the oil.
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Old December 14th, 2005
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I would suggest replacing your belts and have your alternator tested. I think you will find this will resolve your issues as recomended prior. Good luck.
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Well, I've replaced the fan belt and I'm planning on replacing the pipes in the engine bay. I'm going to have my alternator tested as soon as I'm finished with finals, hopefully it'll be fine. I really don't want to have to replace that, I'm already getting a new transmission to make her a 4-speed manual like she should be. (previous owners turned it into a 3 speed automatic)
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